would have supported that or not, and i think that clip that you played of ann romney saying i love women is so illustrative because the romney campaign wants to just assert, we're for women without having any sort of specifics to back it up, any sort of policies that would show that they would help women, that they would be sensitive to these issues. so you can't just come out and say, i love women. you have to back it up and show what the you're going to do for the american people that makes sense. i personally don't think that there's anything he could do at this point to truly close that gap. >> and he better not point and say stop it, because that doesn't work either. >> joy reid and crist yal ball, as always, brilliant women. wonderful. tomorrow we are taking the show on the road with the ktz broadcasting live from the university of denver, site of the first of three presidential debates. our special coverage begins at 4:00 followed by chris matthews, of course, and "hardball" at 5:00. >>> next, why are billionaires so angry with the president? stay with us. >> we have the man